Forum Rules. Register Help. Stay Logged On. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Last Jump to page: Results 1 to 30 of Thread Tools Show Printable Version. Advanced Class Guide Errata Released. Available here. It's 9 pages long. Going beyond "standard errata" into the Paizo-esque territory we all know and love , this has a bunch of nerfs to various abilities. There was something here and in the avatar box, and there will eventually be again.
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Kind of surprised by the Ecclesitheurge buff, they were already pretty potent. Shamans got a big one from the SNA line, which they could very much use. Avatar by Elder Tsofu.
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Originally Posted by Forrestfire. Optimization stops being practical and starts being theoretical when your DPR is measured in Tarrasques instead of hit points. Reading a bit further, I was a bit quick to call it a buff. The new wording on the Bonded Holy Symbol makes it so that the Bonded Holy Symbol works exactly as the wizard one including its downsides needing to be wearing or holding it to cast , meaning Blessing of the Faithful is meant to be a replacement for your general "I attack the bad guy!
All in all I don't mind, because it ends up supporting the type of playstyle that I wanted Ecclesitheurge for anyways. Anchovies and I already went through all the changes in the other Paizo thread , pages 7 and 8.
Originally Posted by PsyBomb. Originally Posted by The Giant. But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text? Originally Posted by gogogome.
What is with people being attached to that thread? Originally Posted by Ilorin Lorati. They completely knocked the Amateur Swashbuckling feat into obscurity by eliminating the ability to pick parry and riposte.
Goes without saying that I am going to ignore that particular piece of errata in my home games. Last edited by Eldonauran; at PM.
I need an errata for the errata on slashing grace. Are we removing one or each instance of "one-handed"; if one, then which?
Last edited by Hrugner; at PM. Originally Posted by Hrugner. Originally Posted by Psyren. You're reading the wrong erratum - that's the one for the table Slashing Grace.
There is only one instance of "one-handed" there and that is the one that gets removed: Spoiler. Steadfast Personality now makes a lot more builds possible. I'm kinda bummed that they nerfed Battle Cry. Originally Posted by Secret Wizard.
I'm abit disappointed with the Sacred Fist change, it means there is no good way to be an unarmed character in armour. Mark Seifter Rogue Eidolon started posting in it, so we kinda kept going. It sort of became a general Paizo thread. Spoiler: Old Avatar by Aruius.
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Originally Posted by Milo v3. Last edited by Extra Anchovies; at AM. My Homebrew PF, 3. Spoiler: Current Characters.
Originally Posted by AGrinningCat. Originally Posted by Extra Anchovies. Brawler can still flurry in armor. Granted, the Brawler isn't much next to the Sacred Fist, but neither is the Monk or really any of the other unarmed-focused Paizo archetypes.
Last edited by Milo v3; at AM. They can in light armour.
But I don't really consider light armour to be Armour in this case, since rogues go around in light armour and they aren't considered "armoured characters". Rogues don't get an AC bonus on top of their dex though, nor do they get shield proficiency. Brawlers get both; they have plenty of AC. Note that a Brawler can "TWF" with just one weapon, allowing them to have a shield in their offhand and still get all their flurry attacks without losing its AC bonus.
Doesn't matter. There is no first party way to make an unarmed character who goes around in medium or heavy armour light armour is discounted since individuals that wear it aren't generally considered the armour type flavour-wise. If you want to make a character who wears breastplate or better, they probably can't fight unarmed without using something like Path of War. Mithral medium armor counts as light for all purposes, so the first statement isn't true.
I thought it didn't count for proficiencies?
And all the archetypes I could find only had light armour proficiency at most. I think your missing my point I'm not talking about a character with high AC. I'm talking about a guy able to do unarmed combat well in fullplate and breastplate. This is a thematic thing. Not numbers. Originally Posted by Kudaku. They clarified later you still only get the bonus against mind-affecting will saves.
So other than making it untyped rather than the incredibly rare insight bonus, they didn't change anything. Last edited by Ilorin Lorati; at AM. Is there a way for unarmored characters to get armor properties? There should be. Originally Posted by Molosse. That would be fine, except BoA are terrible in most cases. The only times that BoA are worth using are A when you get two ability scores to AC when unarmored e.
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